Comments on: A Challenge to NI: Use your Application Builder http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/ an unfiltered stream of data flow consciousness Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:37:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Jim Kring http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/comment-page-1/#comment-25355 Jim Kring Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:28:44 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/#comment-25355 Ritesh: Yes, you can build packages with VIPM. Check out the Package Building Guide, here: <a href="http://jkisoft.com/vipm/guide/" rel="nofollow">jkisoft.com/vipm/guide</a>. There are some limitations in the Community Edition that are not present in the Professional Edition. There is a comparison of features, here: <a href="http://jkisoft.com/vipm/compare/" rel="nofollow">jkisoft.com/vipm/compare/</a>. Ritesh: Yes, you can build packages with VIPM. Check out the Package Building Guide, here: jkisoft.com/vipm/guide. There are some limitations in the Community Edition that are not present in the Professional Edition. There is a comparison of features, here: jkisoft.com/vipm/compare/.

]]> By: Ritesh http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/comment-page-1/#comment-25354 Ritesh Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:09:52 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/#comment-25354 Hi Jim, Thanks alot for your quick reply. I have already laid my hands on the NI's application builder, but didn't like it much. I'll surely try the OpenG Builder. I have installed VIPM(not the professional) on my PC. i want to know if i could make my own packages of VIs and add them to my palette using VIPM. Is it Possible? Hi Jim,
Thanks alot for your quick reply. I have already laid my hands on the NI’s application builder, but didn’t like it much. I’ll surely try the OpenG Builder.

I have installed VIPM(not the professional) on my PC. i want to know if i could make my own packages of VIs and add them to my palette using VIPM. Is it Possible?

]]> By: Jim Kring http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/comment-page-1/#comment-25353 Jim Kring Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:57:43 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/#comment-25353 Ritesh: I use both NI's application builder and <a href="http://wiki.openg.org/Ogrsc_builder" rel="nofollow">OpenG Builder</a> (the "ogrsc_builder" package available for download using <a href="http://jkisoft.com/vipm" rel="nofollow">VIPM</a>). Ritesh: I use both NI’s application builder and OpenG Builder (the “ogrsc_builder” package available for download using VIPM).

]]> By: Ritesh http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/comment-page-1/#comment-25352 Ritesh Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:37:17 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/#comment-25352 Hi Jim, could you pls tell me which software do you use to build stand alone applications which you code in LabVIEW ? Thanks Hi Jim,
could you pls tell me which software do you use to build stand alone applications which you code in LabVIEW ?

Thanks

]]> By: Jim Kring http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/comment-page-1/#comment-11524 Jim Kring Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:05:36 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/#comment-11524 Matt: Another interesting thought is that an engineer who is highly skilled in using NI products might be more valuable to NI when they are working for a large company vs. an NI alliance partner. The reason being that they can more effectively evangelize NI products within that large organization and they probably have a big stack of purchase orders ;) Matt: Another interesting thought is that an engineer who is highly skilled in using NI products might be more valuable to NI when they are working for a large company vs. an NI alliance partner. The reason being that they can more effectively evangelize NI products within that large organization and they probably have a big stack of purchase orders ;)

]]> By: Matt http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/comment-page-1/#comment-11519 Matt Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:21:04 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/#comment-11519 Interesting point Jim. I wouldn't have thought about how hiring an engineer from the industry might remove a customer. Valid and certainly an eye opening perspective. Thanks! Interesting point Jim. I wouldn’t have thought about how hiring an engineer from the industry might remove a customer. Valid and certainly an eye opening perspective. Thanks!

]]> By: Jim Kring http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/comment-page-1/#comment-11403 Jim Kring Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:04:13 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/#comment-11403 Matt: Yes, you’re probably right. NI typically doesn’t pay for experience engineers — they prefer to hire right out of college and have them develop their experience within NI. This is what makes <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eat_one%27s_own_dog_food" rel="nofollow">eating their own dog food</a> so important. It would probably benefit NI greatly to hire outside people who are very skilled users of NI’s tools, however, these individuals are, at the same time, both (1) expensive to hire and (2) have an enormous value to NI, when left “out in the wild”, where they directly purchase NI’s products or facilitate the purchase of NI’s products through integration services. Matt: Yes, you’re probably right. NI typically doesn’t pay for experience engineers — they prefer to hire right out of college and have them develop their experience within NI. This is what makes eating their own dog food so important. It would probably benefit NI greatly to hire outside people who are very skilled users of NI’s tools, however, these individuals are, at the same time, both (1) expensive to hire and (2) have an enormous value to NI, when left “out in the wild”, where they directly purchase NI’s products or facilitate the purchase of NI’s products through integration services.

]]> By: Matt http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/comment-page-1/#comment-11399 Matt Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:31:39 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/#comment-11399 Jim: Interesting point, for years I have maintained the belief that NI doesn't hire enough from industry, since they typically hire right out of college. People that haven't practiced, seldom preach an accurate message. Do you think this hiring practice could be one of the root causes? Just curious about your opinion. Jim:

Interesting point, for years I have maintained the belief that NI doesn’t hire enough from industry, since they typically hire right out of college. People that haven’t practiced, seldom preach an accurate message.

Do you think this hiring practice could be one of the root causes? Just curious about your opinion.

]]> By: Mikael http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/comment-page-1/#comment-11209 Mikael Wed, 28 May 2008 22:25:53 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/#comment-11209 Jim, 15 Hours, it would be good if you could use a cluster server like this one: http://helmer.sfe.se/ Cheers, Mikael Jim,
15 Hours, it would be good if you could use a cluster server like this one:
http://helmer.sfe.se/
Cheers,
Mikael

]]> By: Ton Plomp http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/comment-page-1/#comment-11193 Ton Plomp Wed, 28 May 2008 11:16:31 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/05/27/a-dogfooding-challenge-to-ni-use-your-application-builder/#comment-11193 And that's why we love OpenG, Tom see <a href="http://wiki.openg.org/Current_VIs_Parent_Directory" rel="nofollow">here</a>. On the builder issue, what happens during those 15 hours? That are a lot of computations. Ton And that’s why we love OpenG, Tom see here.

On the builder issue, what happens during those 15 hours? That are a lot of computations.

Ton

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