Comments on: LabVIEW 8.5 Feature – For Loop Conditional Terminal http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/ an unfiltered stream of data flow consciousness Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:37:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Jim Kring http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/comment-page-1/#comment-16721 Jim Kring Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:21:23 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/#comment-16721 Pat: Yes, you're right. That's a bug :) Pat: Yes, you’re right. That’s a bug :)

]]> By: Pat Lavezza http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/comment-page-1/#comment-16677 Pat Lavezza Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:08:16 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/#comment-16677 Ok, I know this is nitpicking, but in example 2 the code isn't equivalent, is it? Wouldn't the 8.2 code find the index of the last element that matched while the 8.5 code would find the first element. I think there is an assumption there that the search value is only in the array once. Of course, I realize it's just an example and we'd use Search 1D Array with and optional Reverse 1D Array to find the first and last matches in real life. Ok, I know this is nitpicking, but in example 2 the code isn’t equivalent, is it? Wouldn’t the 8.2 code find the index of the last element that matched while the 8.5 code would find the first element. I think there is an assumption there that the search value is only in the array once. Of course, I realize it’s just an example and we’d use Search 1D Array with and optional Reverse 1D Array to find the first and last matches in real life.

]]> By: Ton Plomp http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/comment-page-1/#comment-16585 Ton Plomp Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:28:05 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/#comment-16585 About feature request: When you come to LabView from a “text-based” background and find a lot of features that you are used to missing (like the one just added), PS: I don’t just complain, I have already made (hopefully useful) suggestions to NI via the contact-forms. Good you suggested them to NI. Would you be willing to start a thread on the LAVA forums under '<a href="http://forums.lavag.org/Wish-List-f14.html" rel="nofollow">Feature requests</a>'? so we can chime in? I have to text-based background so I don't know what I'm missing but am eager to learn. Ton About feature request: When you come to LabView from a “text-based” background and find a lot of features that you are used to missing (like the one just added),

PS: I don’t just complain, I have already made (hopefully useful) suggestions to NI via the contact-forms.

Good you suggested them to NI. Would you be willing to start a thread on the LAVA forums under ‘Feature requests‘? so we can chime in? I have to text-based background so I don’t know what I’m missing but am eager to learn.

Ton

]]> By: crelf http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/comment-page-1/#comment-16558 crelf Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:25:49 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/#comment-16558 <em>Polarcoordinate</em>: Just because it's common-place somewhere else doesn't mean that we can't get excited about it becomming available to us. They *are* "great new features" for us, and that's why we're excited about them. Rather than saying "it's great that we got this feature that's available in other languages", we're simply saying "it's great that we got this feature". It's not a competition between different languages, but more between successive versions of LabVIEW - it's about celebrating the improvement of LabVIEW (I couldn't care less about what's available in other languages). Sure, other languages have heaps of features that LabVIEW doesn't, but LabVIEW has heaps of features that other programming languages don't. I don't see how comparing a feature release in LabVIEW to features available in other languages is of any value to LabVIEW programmers, other than to put LabVIEW down. Personally, I use it because I like programming with it and it is a great tool to help me do what I need to get done. I don't think that continuing this thread on Jim's blog adds any value either, so that's all I'll say about it here. You're welcome to continue discussing it further, but if you want any more of my input, I suggest you move the thread over to LAVA or the like. Polarcoordinate: Just because it’s common-place somewhere else doesn’t mean that we can’t get excited about it becomming available to us. They *are* “great new features” for us, and that’s why we’re excited about them. Rather than saying “it’s great that we got this feature that’s available in other languages”, we’re simply saying “it’s great that we got this feature”. It’s not a competition between different languages, but more between successive versions of LabVIEW – it’s about celebrating the improvement of LabVIEW (I couldn’t care less about what’s available in other languages). Sure, other languages have heaps of features that LabVIEW doesn’t, but LabVIEW has heaps of features that other programming languages don’t. I don’t see how comparing a feature release in LabVIEW to features available in other languages is of any value to LabVIEW programmers, other than to put LabVIEW down. Personally, I use it because I like programming with it and it is a great tool to help me do what I need to get done.

I don’t think that continuing this thread on Jim’s blog adds any value either, so that’s all I’ll say about it here. You’re welcome to continue discussing it further, but if you want any more of my input, I suggest you move the thread over to LAVA or the like.

]]> By: Jim Kring http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/comment-page-1/#comment-16553 Jim Kring Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:08:31 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/#comment-16553 Polarcoordinate: The easiest way to iterate over an array in reverse order is to reverse the array (using <strong>Reverse 1D Array</strong>) before you pass it into the For Loop. Polarcoordinate: The easiest way to iterate over an array in reverse order is to reverse the array (using Reverse 1D Array) before you pass it into the For Loop.

]]> By: Polarcoordinate http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/comment-page-1/#comment-16521 Polarcoordinate Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:22:26 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/#comment-16521 Would it be possible to process the elements of the array in reverse order? If I wanted to find the last match in example 2 instead of the first match? Otherwise I'd still have to revert to the while-loop to and manually decrement the index... Would it be possible to process the elements of the array in reverse order? If I wanted to find the last match in example 2 instead of the first match? Otherwise I’d still have to revert to the while-loop to and manually decrement the index…

]]> By: Polarcoordinate http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/comment-page-1/#comment-16515 Polarcoordinate Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:49:42 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/#comment-16515 <em>crelf</em>: I'm not trying to be "elitarian". I just think there's so much marketing around LabView claiming that it is so much better than "text-based"-languages (same with Matlab). When you come to LabView from a "text-based" background and find a lot of features that you are used to missing (like the one just added), it's really frustrating to see that when they are added, they are presented as "great new features". By the way, coming back to this page after a few days, I just put example 2 into my VIs :-) PS: I don't just complain, I have already made (hopefully useful) suggestions to NI via the contact-forms. crelf: I’m not trying to be “elitarian”. I just think there’s so much marketing around LabView claiming that it is so much better than “text-based”-languages (same with Matlab). When you come to LabView from a “text-based” background and find a lot of features that you are used to missing (like the one just added), it’s really frustrating to see that when they are added, they are presented as “great new features”.

By the way, coming back to this page after a few days, I just put example 2 into my VIs :-)

PS: I don’t just complain, I have already made (hopefully useful) suggestions to NI via the contact-forms.

]]> By: crelf http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/comment-page-1/#comment-16240 crelf Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:19:51 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/#comment-16240 Do you feel better <em>Polarcoordinate</em>, now that you've gotten that elitism off your chest? Do you feel better Polarcoordinate, now that you’ve gotten that elitism off your chest?

]]> By: Polarcoordinate http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/comment-page-1/#comment-16196 Polarcoordinate Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:18:28 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/#comment-16196 Huh? So much excitement about the ability of breaking out of a for-loop? Most, if not all "legacy, text-based" languages have had that feature for ever... Huh? So much excitement about the ability of breaking out of a for-loop? Most, if not all “legacy, text-based” languages have had that feature for ever…

]]> By: Yair http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/comment-page-1/#comment-12543 Yair Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:34:31 +0000 http://thinkinging.com/2008/07/07/labview-85-feature-for-loop-conditional-terminal/#comment-12543 OK, Toby found a quote from Robbie, although it wasn't the one I remembered specifically: http://eyesonvis.blogspot.com/2007/08/for-loop-with-conditional-terminal.html OK, Toby found a quote from Robbie, although it wasn’t the one I remembered specifically:

http://eyesonvis.blogspot.com/2007/08/for-loop-with-conditional-terminal.html

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